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write back cache and barriers

by calembour :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,
I don't have a deep knowledge about filesystems and I've few experiences with
raid configuration, so I need someone who can answer some questions about
write back cache and barriers.

I have two sata hd (sda, sdb) configured in bios-raid 0 and relative device
created by dmraid on boot (nvidia_ihfaaicb).

(1) what should I do to know if the write back cache is enabled or not ?
(2) if the write cache is enabled on both sda and sdb this mean that is enabled
also on the raid device (/dev/mapper/nvidia_ihfaaicb) ?
(3) how should I do to enable/disable the write cache on the raid device ?

If I try mounting a xfs filesystem I get a message like "barriers are not
supported by this device" but if I mount a ext3 or a reiserfs filesystem
respectively with options barrier=1 and barrier=flush they don't complain.
If I mount the reiserfs I explicity get a message like "using barriers".
So who tells the truth ??

(4) is there a way to know if the raid device supports barrier or not ?
(5) is there a (not dangerous) test I can do to figure out if barriers are
really enabled and used with ext3 and reiserfs filesystems ?

Thanks for reading the message
Marco

Re: write back cache and barriers

by Eric Sandeen-3 :: Rate this Message:

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calembour wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't have a deep knowledge about filesystems and I've few experiences
> with
> raid configuration, so I need someone who can answer some questions about
> write back cache and barriers.
>
> I have two sata hd (sda, sdb) configured in bios-raid 0 and relative device
> created by dmraid on boot (nvidia_ihfaaicb).
>
> (1) what should I do to know if the write back cache is enabled or not ?

lots of this is in the faq:
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq.html#wcache

> (2) if the write cache is enabled on both sda and sdb this mean that is
> enabled
> also on the raid device (/dev/mapper/nvidia_ihfaaicb) ?

I'd guess that if there's a write cache anywhere under your device, then in
effect the raid device would be considered write-cached.

> (3) how should I do to enable/disable the write cache on the raid device ?

see faq

> If I try mounting a xfs filesystem I get a message like "barriers are not
> supported by this device" but if I mount a ext3 or a reiserfs filesystem
> respectively with options barrier=1 and barrier=flush they don't complain.
> If I mount the reiserfs I explicity get a message like "using barriers".
> So who tells the truth ??

I don't see ext3 or reiser actually checking whether the underlying device
supports barriers.  xfs does, in xfs_mountfs_check_barriers().

> (4) is there a way to know if the raid device supports barrier or not ?

I'm not sure how barriers interact with multiple devices; perhaps someone else
can answer....

> (5) is there a (not dangerous) test I can do to figure out if barriers are
> really enabled and used with ext3 and reiserfs filesystems ?

Dunno :)

-Eric

> Thanks for reading the message
> Marco



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by calembour :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks a lot for your hints

Marco