zyn?

[Josh Lawrence]

If I *can't* get zyn or yoshimi running on my netbook, is this worth looking at?

http://home.gna.org/zyn/

i.e., is it in a usable state and can patches from the original zyn be
loaded into this?

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[Nedko Arnaudov]

Josh Lawrence <hardbop200@...> writes:

> If I *can't* get zyn or yoshimi running on my netbook, is this worth looking at?
>
> http://home.gna.org/zyn/

My opinion on this is probably too biased.

> i.e., is it in a usable state and can patches from the original zyn be
> loaded into this?

No.

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[Dominic Sacré]

On Monday 09 of November 2009 22:50:17 Nedko Arnaudov wrote:

> Josh Lawrence <hardbop200@...> writes:
> > If I *can't* get zyn or yoshimi running on my netbook, is this
> > worth looking at?
> >
> > http://home.gna.org/zyn/
>
> My opinion on this is probably too biased.
>
> > i.e., is it in a usable state and can patches from the original zyn
> > be loaded into this?
>
> No.

Hi Nedko,

what are your plans for zyn? Is there any chance we might see zynsub and
zynpad as LV2 plugins in the not too distant future?


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[Nedko Arnaudov]

Dominic Sacré <dominic.sacre@...> writes:

> On Monday 09 of November 2009 22:50:17 Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
>> Josh Lawrence <hardbop200@...> writes:
>> > If I *can't* get zyn or yoshimi running on my netbook, is this
>> > worth looking at?
>> >
>> > http://home.gna.org/zyn/
>>
>> My opinion on this is probably too biased.
>>
>> > i.e., is it in a usable state and can patches from the original zyn
>> > be loaded into this?
>>
>> No.
>
> Hi Nedko,
>
> what are your plans for zyn? Is there any chance we might see zynsub and
> zynpad as LV2 plugins in the not too distant future?

zyn is not usable for me without ladish so I want to reach ladish-1.0
first. I want to port zynsub and zynpad too. zynadd needs to export rest
of the parameters and dynparams framework needs improvements like more hints
for host, a way to transfer monitor data from plugin to host (frequency
graphs for example). Bad news is that I'm getting my motivation lower
and lower because it is obvious that most people want to see zynaddsubfx
fixed instead and there is effort to do it. Also phasex is very good
synth and it is easier to add jack midi and ladish support in it.

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[Thorsten Wilms]

On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 14:30 +0200, Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
> Bad news is that I'm getting my motivation lower
> and lower because it is obvious that most people want to see zynaddsubfx
> fixed instead and there is effort to do it. Also phasex is very good
> synth and it is easier to add jack midi and ladish support in it.

A number of people would like to see zynaddsubfx fixed, yes. But not
necessarily "instead".

I'm not aware of anything being done regarding the gui. Personally, I
experience it as torture. Starting from scratch would likely be the best
option to get to something reasonable.

Additions/improvements of Phasex would be great, of course :)


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[Dominic Sacré]

On Tuesday 10 of November 2009 13:30:03 Nedko Arnaudov wrote:

> > what are your plans for zyn? Is there any chance we might see
> > zynsub and zynpad as LV2 plugins in the not too distant future?
>
> zyn is not usable for me without ladish so I want to reach ladish-1.0
> first. I want to port zynsub and zynpad too. zynadd needs to export
> rest of the parameters and dynparams framework needs improvements
> like more hints for host, a way to transfer monitor data from plugin
> to host (frequency graphs for example). Bad news is that I'm getting
> my motivation lower and lower because it is obvious that most people
> want to see zynaddsubfx fixed instead and there is effort to do it.
> Also phasex is very good synth and it is easier to add jack midi and
> ladish support in it.

I don't think zynaddsubfx can be fixed without almost completely
rewriting it...
Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate cal's work on yoshimi, which
made it a lot more usable, but ultimately I think the current GUI is a
dead end.

What I'd like to see is a synth with all the sounds and features of
zynaddsubfx, but with a GUI that doesn't look like it's still 1990, and
a less monolithic architecture. Having all of zynaddsubfx's synth
engines and effects available as LV2 plugins would be the perfect basis
for that.
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